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« on: May 12, 2006, 06:21:34 pm » |
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Just read a really interesting article in Scottish Mountaineer by Oliver Metherell about the re-introduction of certain wild animals to Scotland. This is something I think about quite often and something I would love to happen (although I'm not sure about Bear) Lynx and Wolves in the Highlands... can you image you're bivvied under a rock somewhere and you hear a howling  Anyway, I was just wondering what everyone else thought of this |
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« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2006, 06:56:30 pm » |
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'You can never have enough beaver'
-John Muir (1864).
Davie
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« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2006, 07:56:32 pm » |
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Dear C
This is a real bright idea, next the MCofS will suggest people should be allowed to go climbing in the Scottish mountains next. Mind you that suggestion is too far fetched.
Norrie
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« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2006, 08:01:16 pm » |
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'You can never have enough beaver'
-John Muir (1864). "Climb mountains, fcuk beavers" Norrie Muir 2006 |
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« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2006, 10:40:34 pm » |
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re-introduction of certain wild animals to Scotland. Good topic. I think it's a totally daft and artificial thing to do, thought up by short-sighted, lame-brained gumbies who like fluffy animals with big eyes, as if the 'environment' is just an extension of the set of Watership Down. The kind of folk who think that birds sing because they're 'happy'. Completely bonkers. I wonder how many 'lost' species of slug or biting insect they're keen to re-introduce? Their actions are nothing to do with ecology or the environment - they're just a bunch of eejits trying to shape the countryside according to their own ideas. Just like the mental animal rights idiots who thought it was a good idea to release mink, or the nutters who came up with the plan for compulsory repatriation of hedgehogs. |
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« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2006, 11:15:13 pm » |
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Repatriating hedgehogs to popular bouldering areas could make the experience more exciting?
Wolves-
'SAIS/ Wolf Report- Glencoe
Category III avalanche risk with windslab formation on Western aspects.
Wolf category V with significant risk of pack mauling/ being eaten alive.
Caution advised.'
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« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2006, 06:01:50 pm » |
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Lynx defo, some climbers just plain stink. :-?
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« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2006, 07:50:58 pm » |
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We have too many deer in the highlands - reintroducing a predator for them (other than humans) seems logical to me.
Personally, I can never understand why there are so many sheep in the countryside - how much lamb do you see in the shops? And we seem to wear anything but woollen clothes to me? What's going on?
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Colin Moody
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« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2006, 08:15:28 pm » |
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I think it's a totally daft and artificial thing to do, thought up by short-sighted, lame-brained gumbies who like fluffy animals with big eyes, as if the 'environment' is just an extension of the set of Watership Down. The kind of folk who think that birds sing because they're 'happy'. Completely bonkers. I wonder how many 'lost' species of slug or biting insect they're keen to re-introduce?
Yes. Would Paul McCartney fly to Canada to stop slugs getting clubbed? If fish stocks are low and seal numbers are up then club a few seals, club Captain Birds-eye and club Paul Mac. A lot of moth species are down in number, probably caused by climate change caused by Paul flying round the world doing good. |
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« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2006, 10:00:45 pm » |
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can you image you're bivvied under a rock somewhere and you hear a howling It will probably just be a guy in baggy trousers and a beanie missing his mat and plummeting into an adoring audience of repatriated hedgehogs. How will the presence of these introduced species affect the grading of climbs? Will it add an E number if you have to wrestle with a mountain lynx as you grapple with a thin and edgy crux? Will it confuse already vague guidebook descriptions when you read the words 'bear left'? What will happen if someone decides to introduce some more well travelled species such as mountain gorillas or chimps that crimp? Imagine if you have been working a route for two years, and are just about to go for the lead when a passing orang utan cruises up it and then tries to shag the camera man. Can you still claim the first ascent, or do your sponsors go ape? Looking forward to everyone beavering away at answers to these questions. pnb |
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« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2006, 12:29:34 am » |
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c Will it confuse already vague guidebook descriptions when you read the words 'bear left'?
pnb Well, we'll finally know the answer to that thorny old question of where bears go to the toilet. |
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« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2006, 07:12:49 am » |
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Beavers create a massive environmental impact, so may not be a good idea. Be nice to have a predator at the top of the food chain, not sure which.
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« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2006, 10:21:23 am » |
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We already have.
The female midge.
Davie
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« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2006, 11:37:07 am » |
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Beavers create a massive environmental impact, so may not be a good idea. Be nice to have a predator at the top of the food chain, not sure which. I thought European Beavers were OK and Canadian Beavers caused more of a problem. |
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« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2006, 01:40:09 pm » |
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Don't know, could be confused. I thought they both cut down trees for consumption and dam building and restricted waterways. Maybe it's only the Cannucks that do it?
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